<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Ravespot</title>
	<atom:link href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com</link>
	<description>the random jottings of a writer and traveller</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:29:06 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
<cloud domain='ravespot.wordpress.com' port='80' path='/?rsscloud=notify' registerProcedure='' protocol='http-post' />
<image>
		<url>http://0.gravatar.com/blavatar/898a6a35bdfeddcbf8d918da74ff4607?s=96&#038;d=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.wp.com%2Fi%2Fbuttonw-com.png</url>
		<title>Ravespot</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com</link>
	</image>
	<atom:link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/osd.xml" title="Ravespot" />
	<atom:link rel='hub' href='http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?pushpress=hub'/>
		<item>
		<title>On this day remember: Zhao Ziyang</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/on-this-day-remember-zhao-ziyang/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/on-this-day-remember-zhao-ziyang/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[China]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[democracy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[free speech]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[history]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[human rights]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tiananmen]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=787</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Zhao Ziyang was a senior member of the Chinese politburo and Communist Party chief, a reformist who campaigned hard against corruption and a supporter of dialogue with students leaders during the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. He famously told the &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/on-this-day-remember-zhao-ziyang/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=787&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_791" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/zhao1.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-791" title="Zhao" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/zhao1.jpg?w=150&#038;h=118" alt="" width="150" height="118" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Addressing the students - AFP</p></div>
<p><a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Ziyang" target="_blank">Zhao Ziyang</a> was a senior member of the Chinese politburo and Communist Party chief, a reformist who campaigned hard against corruption and a supporter of dialogue with students leaders during the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. He famously told the students: &#8220;You are not like us, we are already old, it doesn&#8217;t matter to us any more&#8221;. As the Party declared martial law and sent in the tanks to crush the pro-democracy uprising, Zhao was placed under house arrest. He remained incarcerated and shunned by the Party until his death aged 85 from pneumonia on January 17, 2005.</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/787/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=787&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/on-this-day-remember-zhao-ziyang/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/zhao1.jpg?w=150" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">Zhao</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Brazilian atheists have a message for Indonesia</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/brazilian-atheists-have-a-message-for-indonesia/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/brazilian-atheists-have-a-message-for-indonesia/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Conflict and security]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[advertising]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ahmadiyah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[atheist]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[free speech]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[human rights]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[intolerance]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[secular]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1448</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This powerful advertisement commissioned by a Brazilian atheist group sums up, in one slogan, what is happening with religious bigotry, persecution and violence against the Ahmadiyah community in Indonesia at the moment. Last month a court gave sentences of 3-6 &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/brazilian-atheists-have-a-message-for-indonesia/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1448&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1449" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/brazil-atheists-anuncio_atea_poa_wtc_pq.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1449" title="Brazil atheists - anuncio_atea_poa_wtc_pq" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/brazil-atheists-anuncio_atea_poa_wtc_pq.jpg?w=500&#038;h=232" alt="" width="500" height="232" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&quot;If god exists, everything is permitted&quot;</p></div>
<p>This powerful advertisement commissioned by a <a title="friendly atheist" href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/08/01/these-atheist-billboards-in-brazil-get-right-to-the-point/" target="_blank">Brazilian atheist group</a> sums up, in one slogan, what is happening with religious bigotry, persecution and violence against the Ahmadiyah community in Indonesia at the moment.</p>
<p>Last month a court gave sentences of 3-6 months&#8217; jail to 12 Sunni Muslim thugs who led a <a title="liveleak" href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=61f_1297089677" target="_blank">lynch mob</a> of around 1,500 armed extremists against about 20 members of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya" target="_blank">Ahmadiyah sect</a>, who are Muslims in every sense of the word except they don&#8217;t believe Mohammed was the final prophet. In the eyes of the Indonesian courts, this means you can kill them in front of police and receive less punishment than you would for stealing someone&#8217;s buffalo or making a <a title="the age" href="http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-world/indonesia-jails-rock-star-for-internet-sex-videos-20110131-1abb7.html" target="_blank">naughty video</a> of yourself with your girlfriend.</p>
<p><a title="afp" href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/indonesia-minister-defends-ahmadiyah-verdicts-113131147.html" target="_blank">Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa</a> put his Cambridge masters degree in philosophy to good use on Friday, cynically inverting logic and ethics in justification of the sentences. He said the judiciary&#8217;s independence could not be questioned (ignoring that laws such as prohibitions against murder are created by parliament to be enforced) and noted that Indonesia was not the only country to experience &#8220;heinous&#8221; acts as a result of religious intolerance (ignoring the fact that heinous acts which go unpunished are likely to be repeated).</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1448/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1448&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/brazilian-atheists-have-a-message-for-indonesia/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/brazil-atheists-anuncio_atea_poa_wtc_pq.jpg" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">Brazil atheists - anuncio_atea_poa_wtc_pq</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Getting away with religious murder in Indonesia</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/getting-away-with-religious-murder-in-indonesia/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/getting-away-with-religious-murder-in-indonesia/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Conflict and security]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ahmadiyah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[crime]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[human rights]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Islam]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[justice]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Muslim]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1444</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I must applaud A. Lin Neumann for his powerful opinion piece in today&#8217;s Jakarta Globe newspaper. Indonesia is letting murderers, people who kill in the name of the dominant form of Islam, to get away with slaps on the wrist. &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/getting-away-with-religious-murder-in-indonesia/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1444&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must applaud <a title="Jakarta Globe" href="http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/commentary/cikeusik-a-criminal-verdict/455860" target="_blank">A. Lin Neumann</a> for his powerful opinion piece in today&#8217;s Jakarta Globe newspaper. Indonesia is letting murderers, people who kill in the name of the dominant form of Islam, to get away with <a title="WSJ" href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903635604576474113160743944.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" target="_blank">slaps</a> on the <a title="FT" href="http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/fab7b2c6-b8fc-11e0-bd87-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1TSrvyODG" target="_blank">wrist</a>.</p>
<p>In an appalling series of decisions on Thursday, a court in Serang, western Java, gave sentences of three to six months&#8217; jail to 12 men who led a mob of around 1,500 Muslim fanatics against a small group of <a href="http://www.humanrights.asia/opinions/interviews/AHRC-ETC-033-2011" target="_blank">Ahmadiyah</a> sect members in February this year. Three of the followers of the minority Muslim faith were viciously slaughtered in front of police, who did nothing to intervene. Then the mob set upon the corpses and the property, and hunted the survivors through the surrounding fields.  <a href="http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/indonesian-court-favours-zealots/story-fn6ck55c-1226103844392" target="_blank">Phil Robertson of Human Rights Watch </a>summed it up with one word: &#8220;savagery&#8221;.</p>
<p>The whole thing was captured on video for all to see. Be warned, this is disturbing footage.</p>
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/getting-away-with-religious-murder-in-indonesia/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/DWHzc8ZxRuQ/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span>
<p>Only 12 people were charged over this incident. None was charged with murder. None received a sentence stiffer than six months in jail. All will walk free in weeks. That&#8217;s Indonesian justice and tolerance. It is tolerance of murder and mob rule.</p>
<p>You can read more on the pathetic judicial process here at <a title="HRW" href="http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/07/28/indonesia-verdicts-setback-religious-freedom" target="_blank">Human Rights Watch</a>.</p>
<p>Here are some extracts from Neumann&#8217;s piece:</p>
<blockquote><p>I still cannot get one sound from the Feb. 6 Cikeusik mob attack on a handful of Ahmadiyah followers out of my head. At some point the shouting and mayhem, which millions have seen on YouTube, seems to subside as a lifeless body in the mud is beaten with wooden staves. There follows a series of sickening wet slaps against the corpse as a crowd shouts in approval.</p>
<p>But that man and two other victims were not murdered, according to prosecutors who chose the lightest possible charges to throw up against the clearly identifiable suspects in the Banten province attack. On Thursday, a court made it official, handing out sentences of three to six months to 12 men accused of leading and carrying out the assault.</p>
<p>Dani bin Misra, a 17-year-old, smashed a victim’s skull with a stone; he was charged with manslaughter and got three months. The leader of the mob of about 1,000 people who attacked 20 Ahmadis, Idris bin Mahdani, was convicted of illegal possession of a machete and got five months and 15 days in jail.</p>
<p>In other words, murder &#8211; organized, premeditated and captured on video &#8211; is not much more of a crime than stealing a bunch of bananas. In Indonesia, it appears, you can get away with murder, as long as the killing is done in the name of religion&#8230;</p>
<p>The sad truth is that Indonesia, despite its progress on so many fronts, still allows preachers of hate to foment criminal acts against others. In this upside-down world, Ahmadiyah followers can be killed for their belief that their prophet came after Mohammed. They are fair game.</p>
<p>Thursday’s court verdict seems likely to spur still more mob terror since the crime carries virtually no punishment and the government does so little to speak out against such heinous acts.</p>
<p>This is a frightening black mark on a nation that prides itself on being a bastion of tolerance guided by Pancasila, whose first pillar is religious freedom and whose second is Kemanusiaan yang Adil dan Beradab, which states that all people should be treated with dignity as creatures of God.</p>
<p>This is not the first time such an outrage has gone virtually unpunished. Just two days after the Cikeusik killings, a mob in Temanggung, Central Java, ran riot in reaction to a blasphemy verdict. They were angry because a Christian accused of defaming Islam got only a five-year sentence &#8211; mind you, he killed no one.</p>
<p>That mob burned churches and buildings and injured bystanders. Most of the accused were given five-month sentences by a Semarang court last month. The ring leader, a cleric, got a year’s sentence, which was reduced by several months for time served.</p>
<p>What is so deeply alarming about the Cikeusik verdicts and other outrages, however, is the absence of reasoned and consistent leadership from the top reaches of government to set a tone of tolerance in the face of criminal acts committed in the name of religion&#8230;</p>
<p>The impression that Indonesia is a major success story is increasingly widespread. But don’t take it for granted. Mob rule, disrespect for the law and courts that treat killers with kid gloves are also still part of Indonesia’s story.</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1444/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1444&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/getting-away-with-religious-murder-in-indonesia/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Indonesia&#8217;s smoking clinic featured on Al-Jazeera</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/indonesias-smoking-clinic-featured-on-al-jazeera/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/indonesias-smoking-clinic-featured-on-al-jazeera/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Health]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[medicine]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[quack]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[skeptic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[smoking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tobacco]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1440</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve written quite a bit about a bunch of Indonesians who claim they can treat cancer and all sorts of other ailments with magic cigarettes. It&#8217;s bizarre stuff. The Sydney Morning Herald and AFP news agency have picked up on the &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/indonesias-smoking-clinic-featured-on-al-jazeera/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1440&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve written quite a bit about a bunch of Indonesians who claim they can treat cancer and all sorts of other ailments with magic cigarettes. It&#8217;s bizarre stuff. The <a title="smh" href="http://www.smh.com.au/world/a-nation-of-smokers-that-wont-turn-over-new-leaf-20110204-1agur.html" target="_blank">Sydney Morning Herald</a> and <a title="afp" href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gUdOm0TpCr4BUQ-8sslIDHyBe-VA?docId=CNG.d8b6f260fc02a9624a476c419a0df9fd.281" target="_blank">AFP</a> news agency have picked up on the story. Now Al-Jazeera and the <a title="globalpost" href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gUdOm0TpCr4BUQ-8sslIDHyBe-VA?docId=CNG.d8b6f260fc02a9624a476c419a0df9fd.281" target="_blank">Global Post</a> are joining in. The images tell 1000 words, but still the government has done nothing to intervene:</p>
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/indonesias-smoking-clinic-featured-on-al-jazeera/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/3My-iKxoY40/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1440/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1440&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/indonesias-smoking-clinic-featured-on-al-jazeera/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Cranberries etc peddle tobacco to Indonesian kids</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/cranberries-etc-peddle-tobacco-to-indonesian-kids/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/cranberries-etc-peddle-tobacco-to-indonesian-kids/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Art]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Culture]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Health]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[advertising]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[celebrity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[children]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Cranberries]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[music]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[smoking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tobacco]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1432</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s that time of year again. It doesn&#8217;t seem like that long ago that I was ranting and raving against the likes of Wolfmother and Chris Carrabba for accepting tobacco sponsorship to play in Indonesia. Well, another crop of muso &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/cranberries-etc-peddle-tobacco-to-indonesian-kids/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1432&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1434" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/delores-oriordan.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1434" title="delores oriordan" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/delores-oriordan.jpg?w=300&#038;h=200" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Delores O&#039;Riordan of the Cranberries giving a peace sign - or is she asking her fans for a smoke?</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s that time of year again. It doesn&#8217;t seem like that long ago that I was ranting and raving against the likes of <a title="ravespot" href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/wolfmother-all-shook-up-over-tobacco-money/" target="_blank">Wolfmother</a> and <a title="ravespot" href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/no-cred-for-chris-carrabba/" target="_blank">Chris Carrabba</a> for accepting tobacco sponsorship to play in Indonesia. Well, another crop of muso sell-outs led by the Cranberries (that&#8217;s what&#8217;s-her-face pictured left) are lining up like dirty little piggies at the tobacco-money trough to play at the Java Rockin&#8217; Land music festival from July 22 to 24.</p>
<p>In other words, they&#8217;re telling Indonesian kids it&#8217;s cool and sophisticated and very, very sexy to smoke. Nice one, creeps.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a message from a kind reader, <a href="http://www.change.org/members/3547402" target="_blank">Marita Hefler</a>, drawing my attention to the event and a<a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/good-charlotte-the-cranberries-other-bands-drop-tobacco-sponsorship-in-indonesia" target="_blank"> petition</a> against the show&#8217;s tobacco sponsorship. Marita writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi there, great writing – love your posts about the tobacco industry in Indonesia. Java Rockin’ Land is happening again 22-24 July, with Gudang Garam the main sponsor. There is a petition urging all the bands involved to demand the sponsorship be dumped, see: http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-international-bands-to-drop-tobacco-sponsorship-in-indonesia. So far, no artist has responded. Yet again, double standards prevail in the lineup: the Good Charlotte frontman is a UNICEF goodwill ambassador and he and his brother have their own children’s foundation; 30 Seconds to Mars are active in environmental causes, and lead singer Jared Leto support Elysium, a charity to support critically ill children; Neon Trees have said they don’t want to be part of tobacco sponsorship and have played at an anti-smoking gig; Ed Kowalczyk is a World Vision rep. Blood Red Shoes have supported a cancer charity, and The Cranberries are well-known for speaking out about political issues. Apparently international bands just dump their principles in a bin before they board a plane to Jakarta. Disgraceful.</p></blockquote>
<p>To these musicians I say: Do the right thing. Follow the example of Alicia Keys or Kelly Clarkson, and demand the tobacco companies cancel their sponsorship of the event. Failing this, cancel your shows. That&#8217;s the only way you can salvage your credibility in the eyes of people who care about kids in countries like Indonesia, where they are the explicit targets of an aggressive and foul Big Tobacco marketing campaign the likes of which the West has not seen in decades (because it was made illegal). By playing at this event you are being used by tobacco companies to create young nicotine addicts in a way that would be unacceptable and illegal in your home countries.</p>
<p>Acceptance of the tobacco money means you are either desperate for cash, or so greedy that you don&#8217;t give a damn about your young fans. Or both. Oink oink!</p>
<p>(<em>Photo courtesy of <a href="http://www.fotopedia.com/items/flickr-2087528984" target="_blank">Joe Crimmings Photography</a></em>)</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1432/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1432&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/cranberries-etc-peddle-tobacco-to-indonesian-kids/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/delores-oriordan.jpg?w=300" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">delores oriordan</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Is development alone the answer for Asia&#8217;s poor?</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/is-development-alone-the-answer-for-asias-poor/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/is-development-alone-the-answer-for-asias-poor/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Business and economics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[development]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[poverty]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[wealth]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1424</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s often argued that development is the panacea for poverty in Asia. Rapidly growing emerging markets like Indonesia have adopted this as a mantra, putting development ahead of things like human rights, justice and enduring democratic reform. Here&#8217;s what Professor &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/is-development-alone-the-answer-for-asias-poor/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1424&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/p1000701.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1426" title="Jakarta traffic" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/p1000701.jpg?w=200&#038;h=300" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a>It&#8217;s often argued that development is the panacea for poverty in Asia. Rapidly growing emerging markets like <a title="Global Post" href="http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/indonesia/110613/indonesia-bali-tourism-wealth-gap" target="_blank">Indonesia</a> have adopted this as a mantra, putting development ahead of things like human rights, justice and enduring democratic reform.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what Professor Hal Hill, Professor of Southeast Asian Economies at Australian National University, said on the subject during a lecture in Canberra:</p>
<blockquote><p>On the question of these trade liberalisations and poverty, I would draw the following link. We know in general that more open economies tend to do better than closed economies and generally that leads to higher growth. The question is: Does the growth translate into reduced poverty.</p>
<p>Most poverty reductions tend to be highly associated with growth – faster growth, higher incomes, higher incomes lower poverty. So it is growth plus – the key thing being what is in the plus. What it denotes is the capacity of the poor to connect to a faster-growing economy and typically the poor have only their labour to sell, and to the extent that the growth creates employment opportunities it is most likely to lead to a reduction in poverty.</p>
<p>However, it has to combine with education and health and other public goods which enable people to participate in the growth process.</p>
<p>So the evidence is pretty clear that higher growth leads to faster poverty reduction, but not necessarily at the same pace. You get cases like China where you get rapid growth and rapid poverty reduction but also a rapid rise in inequality.</p></blockquote>
<p>He could have cited Indonesia as another case in point. Journalists often mention <a title="the economist" href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/06/indonesias-radical-chief?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/thirdtimesacharm" target="_blank">Facebook usage</a> to illustrate Indonesia&#8217;s growing wealth and burgeoning middle class. The number is indeed impressive &#8211; Indonesians clearly love wasting time on Facebook. But the bigger picture lies in the internet penetration figures. At around 16 percent of the country&#8217;s 240 million people, it&#8217;s a lot closer to Pakistan on 11 percent than to neighbouring Malaysia at 64 percent. In other words, the vast majority of Indonesians have little or no access to the internet and probably don&#8217;t even know what Facebook is. The wealth associated with having an internet connection and a laptop or a smartphone is not reaching more than a tiny minority of the people.</p>
<p>Indonesia&#8217;s economy may be growing at 6% but the courts remain riddled with corruption, the hospitals are so bad people who can afford it (the five-percenters) fly to Singapore for treatment, and the education system is, to put it mildly, a <a title="jakarta post" href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/06/25/the-ugly-faces-our-educational-practices.html" target="_blank">joke</a>.</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1424/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1424&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/is-development-alone-the-answer-for-asias-poor/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/p1000701.jpg?w=200" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">Jakarta traffic</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Tobacco ad of the day: miracle electro-smokes!</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/tobacco-ad-of-the-day-miracle-electro-smokes/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/tobacco-ad-of-the-day-miracle-electro-smokes/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 09:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Health]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Science]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[advertising]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[journalism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[marketing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[smoking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tobacco]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1410</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[On world No Tobacco Day, your featured cigarette ad from times past and, in Indonesia, present: I&#8217;m not sure if you can read the newspaper &#8220;article&#8221;. It says: Scientific miracles never cease!&#8230; Now see what modern electronics has done to &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/tobacco-ad-of-the-day-miracle-electro-smokes/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1410&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On world <a title="WHO" href="http://www.who.int/tobacco/en/" target="_blank">No Tobacco Day</a>, your featured cigarette ad from times past and, in Indonesia, present:</p>
<p><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cigs-miracleofelectronicsl1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1412" title="miracle of electronics" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cigs-miracleofelectronicsl1.jpg?w=500" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you can read the newspaper &#8220;article&#8221;. It says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Scientific miracles never cease!&#8230; Now see what modern electronics has done to increase your cigarette enjoyment! With electronic accuracy, Accu Ray checks and controls the making of your Chesterfield. For the first time you get a perfect [even smoke] from end-to-end. You&#8217;ll marvel at the extra flavour that comes through. Yet because this measurably better cigarette smokes more slowly &#8211; you enjoy a cool mildness never possible before. From first puff to last, Chesterfield gives you a smoke measurably smoother&#8230; cooler&#8230; best for you! In the whole wide world, no cigarette satisfies like a Chesterfield!</p></blockquote>
<p>Looks like they also boost eyebrow growth (obviously tastes have changes in that department over the years &#8230; ).</p>
<p>Those of us from developed countries might laugh and recognise this as the old game Big Tobacco played on us for years &#8211; dressing up toxic cigarettes in pseudo-science and technology and selling them as healthy, life-enhancing products.</p>
<p>In developing countries like Indonesia &#8211; the new front line for international efforts to reduce death and disease from smoking &#8211; it&#8217;s not funny. Cigarette advertising is ubiquitous and The Jakarta Post, the country&#8217;s oldest English-language broadsheet newspaper, has repeatedly published <a title="Ravespot" href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/no-tobacco-day-in-indonesia-try-a-health-cigarette/" target="_blank">uncritical articles</a> in its editorial pages about how local scientists are using advances in nantotechnology to make &#8220;divine cigarettes&#8221; that are not only healthy, they can treat cancer. Even Chesterfield didn&#8217;t go that far.</p>
<p>(<em>For more old tobacco ads, see Stanford School of Medicine&#8217;s great <a title="Stanford" href="http://lane.stanford.edu/tobacco/index.html" target="_blank">gallery</a></em>)</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1410/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1410&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/tobacco-ad-of-the-day-miracle-electro-smokes/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cigs-miracleofelectronicsl1.jpg" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">miracle of electronics</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>No Tobacco Day in Indonesia? Try a &#8216;health cigarette&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/no-tobacco-day-in-indonesia-try-a-health-cigarette/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/no-tobacco-day-in-indonesia-try-a-health-cigarette/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 07:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Health]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Media]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Science]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cancer]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[medicine]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[skeptic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[smoking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tobacco]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1373</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[As the world marks No Tobacco Day, Indonesia is again in the spotlight and The Jakarta Post has again covered itself in infamy. On the eve of today&#8217;s event, the English-language daily published another installment in its bizarre campaign to promote &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/no-tobacco-day-in-indonesia-try-a-health-cigarette/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1373&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nosmoke1.png"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1378" title="nosmoke" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nosmoke1.png?w=150&#038;h=150" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>As the world marks <a title="WHO" href="http://www.who.int/tobacco/en/" target="_blank">No Tobacco Day</a>, Indonesia is <a title="ravespot" href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/indonesia-in-spotlight-on-world-no-tobacco-day/" target="_blank">again</a> in the spotlight and The Jakarta Post has again covered itself in infamy. On the eve of today&#8217;s event, the English-language daily published another installment in its bizarre campaign to promote <a title="jakarta post" href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/05/30/tobacco-control-a-solution-dilemma.html" target="_blank">&#8220;healthy cigarettes&#8221;</a>. Using pseudo-scientific language, the author of an &#8221;opinion&#8221; piece claims that cancer patients are being successfully treated with scientifically altered cigarettes that vacuum up all harmful &#8220;free radicals&#8221; linked mercury.</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t so sad it would be funny:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; apparently, a biochemist from the Bandung Institute of Technology (ITB) has found a way to do just that &#8212; neutralise tobacco through a nanobiological process. i.e. a process characterised by the interplay between physics, materials science, synthetic organic chemistry, engineering and biology. The researcher has successfully treated a number of terminal lung cancer patients through a detoxification method that includes smoking the &#8220;healthy cigarettes&#8221; of her invention.</p></blockquote>
<p>The unnamed scientist sounds suspiciously like <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/divine-tobacco-doctor-responds-but-what-is-she-talking-about/" target="_blank">Dr. Greta Zahar</a>, of &#8220;Divine Cigarettes&#8221; fame. But Alita Damar, the writer of the opinion piece, seems to follow the template set by Australian <a title="Jakarta Post" href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/03/19/indonesia-president-obama-and-tobacco.html" target="_blank">contributor</a> Murray Clapham last year and doesn&#8217;t name the mastermind behind this historic medical breakthrough. Best to keep all those desperate cancer sufferers guessing! She continues:</p>
<blockquote><p>Indeed, the nanostructure molecular blocks of these health cigarettes remove the electrons of the free radical gases contained in tobacco smoke, in particular those promoted by mercury, thereby neutralising the ill-effects of smoking. Unlike regular cigarettes, this cigarette smoke is &#8220;odorless&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>So <em>all</em> the harmful effects of smoking, from impotence to stroke and heart disease and emphysema, not to mention cancer, are nullified by this new treatment. And what of the doubters? They&#8217;re dismissed out of hand:</p>
<blockquote><p>Naturally, the controversial method has raised controversy [spellbinding wordplay here] in the wake of the anti-tobacco campaign here and around the world. Speculation has also been rife that she might work for the tobacco industry. It’s not true, of course. Years ago most patients would only survive in the next few months due to their poor prognostics, but many of whom are still alive.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what, dare we ask, is the evidence that smoking such cigarettes cures or halts the spread of cancer? None. Unless you factor in the power of the placebo. In the absence of any evidence, we must conclude that the free radical, nano-engineering blah blah being touted here is just another form of &#8220;alternative medicine&#8221; which desperately ill people will try as a last resort. And as <a title="economist" href="http://www.economist.com/node/18710090" target="_blank">The Economist</a> noted last week, there is very little evidence that alternative medicines work beyond the placebo effect, which may be considerable.</p>
<p>Damar claims that the mysterious researchers are part of the &#8220;complexity science&#8221; movement, and she notes that they have &#8220;presented&#8221; their findings at international meetings:</p>
<blockquote><p>As controversial as it may seem, the detoxification process is based on meta-engineering, for example, the development of new knowledge&#8230;</p>
<p>This science, which includes the less popular quantum physics, deals with cells and interaction between cells. It thereby enables a better understanding on how the whole body system functions, thus leading to the achievement of &#8220;holistic health&#8221;. Hence, we are speaking of a science that potentially brings about breakthroughs in medical science which is generally based on reductionism, or a science that may well &#8220;revolutionise&#8221; medicine.</p>
<p>The detoxification method has been presented in a number of international forums attended by scientists working on Theoretical Physics and Nano or Computer Science, such as the recent ICEME (International Conference on Engineering and Meta-Engineering) in Florida, the US.</p></blockquote>
<p>I looked up the <a href="http://exa.unne.edu.ar/depar/areas/informatica/SistemasOperativos/ICEME2011.pdf" target="_blank">proceedings</a> of this conference (which one anonymous <a href="http://confspam.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">blogger</a> described as &#8220;junk&#8221; ) and found the paper to which Damar appears to be referring. It&#8217;s by Sutiman B. Sumitro, identified as representing the Department of Biology and &#8220;Laboratory of Molecular Biology&#8221; at <a title="wikileaks" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawijaya_University" target="_blank">Brawijaya University</a> in West Java.</p>
<p>The paper is titled &#8220;Study on Biradical Based Complex Structure: A PossibleWay to Find out Natural Nanoparticles from the Human Body&#8221;. A paper with the same name by Sutiman Sumitro  also <a href="http://smartbio.org/web/images/slide/Biradical.pdf" target="_blank">appears</a> on the fascinating website of something called the <a href="http://smartbio.org/web/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,24/" target="_blank">Indonesia Nanobiology Institute</a>.  Take the time to read the 4-page paper and decide for yourself if it&#8217;s credible. I&#8217;m not a scientist so I can only guess.</p>
<p>Sumitro is a long-standing associate of Zahar, that &#8220;strange granny&#8221; I&#8217;ve mentioned before. They seem to be the driving forces of the &#8220;nanobiology institute&#8221; and co-author articles posted there. Check out the <a href="http://smartbio.org/web/images/slide/Research_of_Divine_Cigarette.pdf" target="_blank">paper</a> titled &#8220;Overcoming Cigarette for Health without altering the Flavor (Brief illustration of scientific background and evidences)&#8221;. Fascinating. It says Zahar is from the &#8220;Free Radicals Institute&#8221; of Malang. So many institutes I just can&#8217;t keep up. Here&#8217;s the abstract, or as the authors put it, the &#8220;Basic Concept and Philosophy&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is about technology to eliminate free-radicals and to transform particulates contained in the smoke having characteristic to develop order. The idea is based on the assumption that in the biological system, life is an ordered system with internal driven activities. We consider a complexity concepts cover self-organization and edge-of-chaos phenomena in the living systems. As may we know that in the basic process of life (called metabolism), there is ceaseless flow of energy and matter through a network of chemical reactions, which enables a living organism to continually generate, repair and perpetuate itself. Thermodynamically, the ordered structure of the living system is maintained by continually exert entropy to the outside of the system.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty clear, yeah? They even include a diagram to illustrate &#8220;complexity in living system&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/life-diagram.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1391" title="life diagram" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/life-diagram.jpg?w=500&#038;h=407" alt="" width="500" height="407" /></a></p>
<p>So, we can rest assured the Nobel committee is on its way to Bandung or Malang (or wherever) to bestow its honours on Dr. Zahar (who has previously stated she has no interest in having her work reviewed by &#8220;Western&#8221; scientists), her colleague  Sutiman Sumitro and their groundbreaking team. When are all those silly Western evidence-freaks going to come to their senses?</p>
<p>Sadly, The Jakarta Post isn&#8217;t the only outlet for those willing to peddle this stuff. Take a look at <a href="http://www.signalad.com/cancer-cure-acute-cigarette" target="_blank">this blog</a> for more.</p>
<p>For a dose of reality, check out this story in the <a title="Jakarta Globe" href="http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesia-worst-in-tobacco-fight/444148" target="_blank">Jakarta Globe</a> on Tuesday, with the depressing stats on smoking in Indonesia.</p>
<p>Or check the National Cancer Institute&#8217;s <a title="NCA" href="http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/prevention/antioxidants" target="_blank">website</a> and read what it has to say about free radicals (such as oxygen) and antioxidants (such as vitamin C). It says that while serious research is ongoing, recent &#8220;large-scale, randomised clinical trials reached inconsistent conclusions&#8221; about whether antioxidants slow or prevent the development of cancer. As for actually reversing that damage, there seems to be no evidence at all.</p>
<p>There is also serious research being done into the use of nanoparticles to fight cancer. Scientists at the Georgia Institute of Technology, for example, have sent <a title="physorg" href="http://www.physorg.com/news185473430.html" target="_blank">gold nanoparticles</a> into the nuclei of cancer cells and killed them (NB: sent particles into cancer cells, not used particles to hoover up free radicals). Their research has been cited as a communication in the Journal of the American Chemical Society.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know who is behind these opinion pieces and <a href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/05/19/divine-cigarettes-used-treat-cancer.html" target="_blank">features</a> in The Jakarta Post, coming as they do on the eve of No Tobacco Day and as the government tries to improve its appalling record on smoking regulations. It wouldn&#8217;t have anything to do with the tobacco industry&#8217;s advertising dollars, would it?</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1373/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1373&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/no-tobacco-day-in-indonesia-try-a-health-cigarette/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nosmoke1.png?w=150" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">nosmoke</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/life-diagram.jpg" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">life diagram</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Looking for a no-smoking zone in Indonesia</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/looking-for-a-no-smoking-zone-in-indonesia/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/looking-for-a-no-smoking-zone-in-indonesia/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 12:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Culture]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Health]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[food]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Muslim]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[smoking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tobacco]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[wine]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1361</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[A website sent in by a reader seems to be a compilation of pictures of Indonesian men smoking in shops. It happens all the time and there&#8217;s nothing non-smokers can do except leave the shop. You&#8217;d have more luck asking &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/looking-for-a-no-smoking-zone-in-indonesia/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1361&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/roko-prijaji.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1362" title="roko-prijaji" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/roko-prijaji.jpg?w=500" alt=""   /></a>A website sent in by a reader seems to be a compilation of pictures of Indonesian men smoking in shops. It happens all the time and there&#8217;s nothing non-smokers can do except leave the shop. You&#8217;d have more luck asking the pope to dance the can-can than getting one of these guys to stub out their cigarettes or take it outside.</p>
<p>Check it out &#8211; <a href="http://itcroxymasjakarta.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://itcroxymasjakarta.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>I recently took a friend to Cork and Screw (Kuningan), an up-market wine bar and restaurant in Jakarta, and asked if they had a non-smoking area. The waiter, all dressed up like he was on the Champs Elysees, looked bemused and had to think about what we meant. Finally he told us that if we didn&#8217;t like cigarette smoke we could eat dinner  out on the service bar near the cash register. In other words they didn&#8217;t have a non-smoking area. The waiter explained that it was a <em>wine</em> bar, and people like to smoke when they drink wine.</p>
<p>Silly me, thinking that a restaurant in the 21st century that aspires to be cosmopolitan and sophisticated would have a non-smoking area. In other countries, of course, I might have trouble finding a <em>smoking</em> area, because the whole restaurant would be a smoke-free, healthy breathing kind of place. But no, this is Indonesia, and it has a very, very long way to go.</p>
<p>It was early and not very busy so my friend and I decided to put up with the smoke and eat anyway. We ordered a hugely overpriced bottle of wine (alcohol is the drink of the devil and rich foreigners, you see, so it is subject to massive taxes in mainly Muslim Indonesia) and asked for the menus. When the wine came we tasted it and both agreed it was off. It had soured, probably because it had been exposed to varying temperatures as it was transported from Australia. The waiter didn&#8217;t know what we were talking about, and offered to give it to us in different glasses. We said no thanks. Then a more senior waiter came over and said he would have to get the restaurant&#8217;s in-house &#8220;sommelier&#8221; to taste the wine. I watched as he took the bottle over to a guy who was smoking cigarettes at the bar with a woman, who was also smoking and drinking a giant fruit cocktail with a pink umbrella. The &#8220;sommelier&#8221; swished a bit of wine around in his glass and had a couple of gulps, but seemed unable to decide if it was OK. He gave the glass to one of the bar tenders who also had a swig before passing it over to a third bar tender for yet another taste. Strange sort of sommelier, I thought to myself. Low self-esteem, perhaps? Lacking confidence? Anyway, the waiter brought the bottle back to us and told us the wine was in fact good. We said no thanks, the wine was in fact off. Then the restaurant&#8217;s manager come over and had a taste himself. He said maybe it would be better if he chilled it for us for precisely two minutes. We said no thanks that would make no difference at all. So the manager said he would talk to his number-one sommelier, the really serious expert in the house, who ended up being the woman I&#8217;d noticed smoking at the bar. She put down her fruit cocktail and cigarette and had a sip, then another, etc etc etc. Finally she came over and said the wine was good. I told her the wine was not good and we weren&#8217;t going to pay for it. By this stage my friend and I were laughing. At least they had the decency to accept our position, but it took an awful lot of rather silly posturing before they did.</p>
<p>My friend and I concluded that it&#8217;s a waste of time trying to buy wine with a meal in an Indonesian restaurant unless you want to pay about $80 for a $30-dollar bottle. Otherwise, you pay $40 for the cheapest plonk they have. As for trying to escape the smokers, forget it.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the country continues to bow to Big Tobacco and sidestep meaningful reform to its smoking regulations that would bring it in line with the rest of the world. The latest news is that regulations to limit cigarette advertising will not be brought in as planned because of &#8220;technicalities&#8221;.  As Arist Merdeka Sirait, chairman of the National Commission for Child Protection, told the <a title="jakarta globe" href="http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/technicality-stubs-out-total-ban-on-smoking-ads/443660" target="_blank">Jakarta Globe</a>, the government’s decision contradicted the Health Law.</p>
<blockquote><p>The law clearly states tobacco as an addictive substance and clearly addictive substances should not be advertised. The government should ask themselves, what do they care about more, income or the future or our children?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you go to that Jakarta Globe link, check out the comment from the religious nut regarding tobacco and the Koran. Smoking  can &#8220;stop you from the sole purpose of having been sent to the world, namely the remembrance of Allah&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I can think of a few other reasons to live.</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1361/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1361&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/looking-for-a-no-smoking-zone-in-indonesia/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/roko-prijaji.jpg" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">roko-prijaji</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Sadly, there are &#8220;still places&#8221; like Indonesia</title>
		<link>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/sadly-there-are-still-places-like-indonesia/</link>
		<comments>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/sadly-there-are-still-places-like-indonesia/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ravespot</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Art]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Conflict and security]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[atheism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[belief]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[blasphemy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[free speech]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[human rights]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Indonesia]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Terry Jones]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://ravespot.wordpress.com/?p=1348</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I had to laugh when I read the following line in this wonderful piece by Andrew Copson in The Guardian: &#8220;There are still places where it is illegal to declare yourself as non-religious on your identity papers or official records&#8221;. &#8230; <a href="http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/sadly-there-are-still-places-like-indonesia/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1348&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/p10100201.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1355" title="P1010020" src="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/p10100201.jpg?w=200&#038;h=300" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a>I had to laugh when I read the following line in <a title="guardian" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/apr/02/shelley-the-necessity-of-atheism" target="_blank">this</a> wonderful piece by Andrew Copson in The Guardian: &#8220;There are still places where it is illegal to declare yourself as non-religious on your identity papers or official records&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes unfortunately there are <em>still</em> such places, and at least one of them is  Indonesia, that mainly Muslim country which US President Barack Obama recently lauded as a model of tolerance and pluralism. In Indonesia it is impossible to have a legal identity if you are an atheist &#8211; you must state your adherence to one of six &#8220;religions&#8221;. I put that word in commas because the rules bizarrely rank Catholicism and Protestantism as separate religions. The others are Islam, Buddhism, Confucianism (a religion?) and Hinduism. Any alternative beliefs, including the various other branches of Christianity, are invalid and followers of those beliefs are ineligible for ID documents.</p>
<p>I laughed because Indonesia is so desperate to be seen as a powerful, moderate and modern country, yet in fact on so many levels it ranks as one of <em>those</em> unmentionable places that <em>still </em>has such backward laws on its books.</p>
<p>Of course, Indonesia isn&#8217;t the only place in the world where religion reigns mightily over reason. Witness the madness being committed in the name of religion in Afghanistan now, with the killings of innocent people in response to a US pastor&#8217;s provocative and stupid burning of a copy of the Koran in far-away Florida. In this foul, depressing atmosphere it&#8217;s so nice to read a piece of free-thinking such as Copson&#8217;s article.</p>
<p>Copson points out that 2011 is the 200th anniversary of Oxford university&#8217;s expulsion of the poet Shelley for his publication of a tract arguing the &#8220;Necessity of Atheism&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>Today in Britain, non-religious people are not thrown out of universities because they don&#8217;t believe in God, but in other parts of the world many suffer this fate – and worse. There are still places where it is illegal to declare yourself as non-religious on your identity papers or official records.</p>
<p>One of the most upsetting stories I was ever told was by a young humanist from Saudi Arabia who grew up so frightened of what would happen if he spoke out loud about his beliefs to another person that the only outlet for his thoughts was to go on long walks away from all people, and speak his mind only to the air. In fact, he never spoke to another human being about his most fundamental beliefs until coming to Britain in his late 20s, and experiencing then for the first time what those of us who live in freedom take for granted: the joyful dynamic of testing and developing our own ideas in conversation and dialogue with others.</p>
<p>In this country the blasphemy laws have been abolished, but elsewhere our fellow men and women face death for speaking and thinking freely.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indonesia has not yet made blasphemy a capital crime, but some fear it is heading down that road. And anyway Indonesians &#8220;face death for speaking and thinking freely&#8221;, either at the <a title="guardian" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/07/indonesia-inquiry-ahmadiyah-muslims-killed" target="_blank">hands</a> of <a title="afp" href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h0Xm56iYPH9m9T_8pfkDvKQevqpQ?docId=CNG.109ca1c1340ce42e33e6f0390a02cf2c.e1">fanatics</a> for their <a title="Jakarta Globe" href="http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/lifeandtimes/jakarta-journo-end-of-the-line-for-ahmadiyah/431877" target="_blank">religious views</a> or at the hands of the security forces for their <a title="west papua reports" href="http://wpik.org/Src/More.html" target="_blank">political</a> ones.</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/ravespot.wordpress.com/1348/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ravespot.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12705850&amp;post=1348&amp;subd=ravespot&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://ravespot.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/sadly-there-are-still-places-like-indonesia/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/22325090e89039a5e673dc93abf7c451?s=96&#38;d=identicon&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravespot</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://ravespot.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/p10100201.jpg?w=200" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">P1010020</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
